People who select many providers

Is there a setting to eliminate people who select a certain number of pro's? I just got a lead where they selected 5 people and I honestly have no interest in a race to the bottom trying to compete against that many people.

It's freaking an abomination that people are allowed to pick that many pro's.

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  • Fil777
    Fil777 Posts: 15

    There are two solutions to get less competitors in leads - target locations where the low competition is (rural areas, usually 1-1.5 hrs away) or use other platforms, that work differently (Google etc)

  • DerHilfer_LLC
    DerHilfer_LLC Posts: 118
    edited September 26

    I've recently been working with two other lead generation services.

    Bark: I've spent zero dollars and received zero gross revenue from this attempt.

    https://prenetworking.net I've spent $475, met an awesome group of people I have the pleasure of calling friends and have made $7,953.82 Gross Revenue in three months. I know this isn't available everywhere, highly recommend contacting them to start a chapter.

    By contrast: I've spent $5,406.58 on Thumbtack and the return is $39,185.00 over two years.

    Break out:
    Bark: 0% ROI
    Thumbtack: 624% ROI with a lot of frustration 21% of Thumbtack Users are labeled "Tire Kickers" meaning he couldn't pay for what I do even if he wanted to. Also, my recent data shows 40% won't answer the phone when you call two minutes from the request. I will update this when I have more data.
    PRE: 16604% ROI (two "customers" out of 14 are labeled "do not service" or 1/3rd less than Thumbtack. BTW, all the PRE referrals answered the phone which is a huge plus.)

    If there's an accountant in the audience to tell me my math is wrong, I'd greatly apprecaite it.
    Otherwise, it's basically three fold better to join a networking group before you consider the fact that you'll reap some new friends.

  • Fil777
    Fil777 Posts: 15

    That is useful information. What is PRE? And have you used a Google Local Services?

  • DerHilfer_LLC
    DerHilfer_LLC Posts: 118
    edited September 26

    Professional Referral Exchange. Currently they're active in PA and Florida, however, don't get discouraged. I highly recommend contacting them and asking about starting a chapter in your area.

    Basically it's a group of professionals from different backgrounds who refer other members to their clients. So today a customer contacted me about drywall repairs because he plans on selling his rental property. I asked him if he had a realtor. Customer states he does not yet. So I gave him the contact information for the realtor in my PRE group.
    In a similar vein, the house painter in the group gave one of his customers my number for a finished basement quote.

    There's only one of each category of professional in each chapter, so that minimizes competition. While I paint houses, I don't talk about it in the group. I also don't paint that many houses. There's overlap, so the bathroom remodel guy knows that I install sinks and replace toilets. But in the big scheme of things we're not competitors, we're friends who do similar work.

    There's an accountant, a lawyer, a painter, a videographer, a travel agent, so on and so forth.

    Since we all get to know each other in time, we are comfortable giving our customers recommendations for the other members of our group. Once a quarter, somebody throws a party and once a month we meet at a restaurant and chat.

    Forgot to mention the thing that I really do like about Bark. I have to say "I'm interested" if I'm not, I don't have to pay for the inquiry. Unlike Thumbtack which jams everything down our throats and we have to beg for refunds.

  • No, I haven't tried Google lead services.

  • Fil777
    Fil777 Posts: 15

    Good to know, especially once slow season happens, might be useful to join.

    As for the Google Local Services, that is pretty good for handymans, plumbers, electricians etc. But they're pretty expensive, $30+ per lead (people calling you from Google search). But usually you get high-intent customers that willing to pay a premium price. But you need to target those ads on wealthiest areas only, otherwise you will get a tire kickers for $30+ and they also not really good with refunds.

    But works for me

  • If Thumbtack brought me $40,000 finished basement customers who can afford $40,000 finished basements and actually want to buy $40,000 finished basements, I would have no problem paying $200.

    But Thumbtack brings me a lot of people who have no means to pay, are looking for the lowest possible price and sometimes when I manage to meet that price for a customer who can pay, make me wait eight months to start that job and in spite of the compromises she agreed to, will leave me a bad review even though she got literally double the number of labor hours than expected due to complications which were outside of both her and my control. (I accepted $4,000 for a job that should have cost $9,000).

  • @DerHilfer_LLC wrote "Bark: I've spent zero dollars and received zero gross revenue from this attempt."
    Update: I used my five free credits from signing up for Bark on my first contact and that job is scheduled for Tuesday morning. Sadly, it's only a garbage disposer install for $85-103 but the math is looking favorable for this small sample. Additionally, zero other pros contacted this person.

    Caveat: Bark allows up to five Pros to contact a User. Which is less than Thumbtack, but still too many IMHO.

    TLDR; made our first Bark sale on the first attempt.